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  • 1.  US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-10-2022 12:49 PM
    Edited by WESLEY NASON 10-13-2022 06:07 PM
    The State of Alaska is starting the process of decommissioning orphan wells in Alaska, some from as long ago as the 1950's.  All of the orphan wells are old exploration holes, not producing wells. 

    Any experience with well abandonment down hole issues in the lower 48 states would be of interest, particularly for legacy holes drilled in the 1950's and 1960's. .

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    Wes Nason
    Technical Manager 
    wesley.nason@mbakerintl.com
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  • 2.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-11-2022 06:36 AM
    Hi Wesley - thanks for reaching out to the community. This could be a very interesting thread.
    Peers might have suggestions on solutions/options which might have worked elsewhere (specific slurry formulations like MMO for gas isolation, eutectic bismuth/lead alloys, shale creep potential...) and beyond this, what would be most interesting to share would often be failures (when things didn't work so well).
    Specific topics I'm personally interested to hear about:
    1. Evaluation / Characterization of issues (evaluating, then measuring the issues. Measuring fugitive gas emissions, cost-effective integrity logs, etc)
    2. Robust approach / Best practices to re-enter orphan wells - either simply "forgotten" wells or failed P&A (flow to surface as a tell-tale)
    3. Barrier placement strategy (and cement evaluation... there could be a virtuous (albeit long) feedback loop on some of the current practices, which may not be conservative enough)
    4. Barrier material for P&A: old school casing under-reaming and slurry, or bentonite plugs, or novel solutions like molten metal alloys or application of heat, etc...
    Rgds.


  • 3.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-11-2022 11:21 AM
    Edited by Mike Loudermilk 10-11-2022 12:59 PM
    So you have a contract from the Interior department for doing something you have little experience with?

    With all the competent people I know up there that could do that work I cannot understand why you can't find one of them?

    I have worked up there and in my experience, one should not apply any of he experience we have down here plugging with anything up there, or someone will get hurt or something will break. 

    Brian Duwe used to be with Baker Oil Tools in Anchorage is a good place to start. He has completion /workover experience in Alaska. If he can't help he will know someone who can. 

    In any case I will use my baseball analogy, "I can tell you how to throw a curve ball, but that does not make you a major league pitcher! "

    Good luck. 


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    Mike Loudermilk
    COO
    Volturo NRG
    Spring Texas
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  • 4.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-11-2022 04:16 PM
    Thanks, Mike.  The State of Alaska is issuing an RFP for this work.  The first tranche of twelve orphan wells are distributed as follows:  2 on North Slope (remote access), 2 in Southeast Alaska near Cordova (remote access), and 8 in Southcentral Alaska between Big Lake and Eureka.  Many of these were drilled in the 1950's and 1960's.   
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    We have a qualified petroleum/drilling engineer consulting with us.  None of these 'wells' have produced.  I don't believe the southcentral wells have any significant downhole pressure issues.  I'm more interested in what to expect when entering wells this old and thought there could be some relevant information gained from some Lower 48 cases.

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    Wesley Nason
    Technical Manager
    Michael Baker International
    wesley.nason@mbakerintl.com
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  • 5.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-12-2022 09:58 AM
    Wesley, 

    I only say these things because there are a lot of people that would love to give you advice. But it has been in my experience that free advice is worth nothing. I have no idea the challenges you will face and for anyone to try to somehow bestow knowledge at this point when they know nothing about the wells would not be valuable. Best to hire people to do the job that have a vested interest and the experience to know that plugging old wells is not paint by numbers. One thing I do know is that your logistics problems of getting the right equipment to the right place on time is a problem not many face down here in the lower 48.

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    Mike Loudermilk
    COO
    Volturo NRG
    Spring Texas
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  • 6.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-12-2022 11:19 AM
    Mike
    I would challenge that response.  Wells are wells anywhere.  Yes, there will be local differences, and practices -- and knowing those is paramount.  But experiences from elsewhere and and other times are not totally useless.  Its up to the user to discern what is useful.
     My 'for what its worth' (and yes, maybe not worth anything).
    In my 40+ years in the oilfield, I have been called upon to plug many wells with spud dates from 1929 - 1960.  Here is some of the things I've seen below but the important thing to remember is that even if you spend time in old records and with experienced local folks, you are still probably going to encounter the unexpected,  But-- you already know that.

    For wells from that era, I recall some of the following:
    1.  A lot of wells had iron junk, cloth, paper, and rocks used for at least part of the plugging material.
    2.  'Pine plugs' were often used -  Trimmed wood plugs driven downhole, with a sack of cement dropped on top.
    3.  Some of the older wells and especially those during the WWII years had odd sized casing -- line pipe for casing, cast iron casing, and even wood or clay pipes used in the surface casing.
    4.  We encountered a lot of non-reservoir fractured zones with fresh and salt water, air, nitrogen and other effluents.
    5.  It was common in those days to simply cut sacks of cement and pour it into the wellbore.  You can imagine what results from this up and down the wellbore.
    6.  As you are probably aware, many of the older wells (including those that did not produce) were 'tested' by 'stimulating' with nitroglycerin -- leaving large caverns at those depths.  We encountered a few those where it was not in the records.

    In some more recent north-slope wells, we had to dig out the surface casing to a failure point with a backhoe and dozers.  Surface subsidence from melting permafrost was encountered early-on.  I would refer you to a paper by Malcolm Goodman at Exxon on that.  I have no idea if the early wells had that issue, but if so, you may encounter compression-damaged casing.

    I hope this bit of history helps, or at least was entertaining.


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    Olli Coker
    Diamond C Enterprises
    Manager
    OlliC3@gmail.com
    Former ConocoPhillips and Altus Well Experts
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  • 7.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-13-2022 09:07 AM
    Wesley





    Both Mike and Olli make some very good points. Having someone on board with
    local knowledge of completion, operating, intervention and abandonment
    practices utilized at the time the wells were active is vital to
    understanding what obstacles you may encounter plugging the wells. Also
    plugging the well is only one step of abandonment. There will be challenges
    will equipment, flowline, pit, and facility abandonment as well as site
    restoration and environmental impacts. With that said, Olli's comments are
    also well stated and can be of value in planning your abandonment strategy.



    Another challenge will be finding actual records of the wells. All to often,
    the regulatory records are not accurate concerning the final condition of
    the wellbore or what equipment is downhole. Doing a thorough record search
    and talking to people who were familiar with the wells, like former
    operators or pumpers, can be extremely valuable. Also doing well inspections
    and diagnostics before developing an abandonment plan can be of great value.



    The challenges that your company and Alaska are facing is being shared
    throughout the US as states are dealing with their orphan well programs and
    utilizing the new Federal Grants that have been made available. Many people
    do not understand that it takes a company with experience managing the
    complexities of government contracts and large-scale project management to
    meet the requirements requested, and most service companies are unable or
    unwilling to take the risk.



    One last comment I have is that make sure your organization has someone with
    experience developing a well abandonment strategy and organization that
    encompasses the entire abandonment process, safety, vendor selection, cost
    control, document and quality control, and regulatory interaction.



    Chuck Greer, President



    CRG Consulting Group, a Division of CRG Oilfield Abandonment LLC

    10319 Armstrong Dr, Iowa Colony, TX 77583

    Cell: 832-792-0067

    Email: Chuck.Greer@crgoarn.com <mailto:chuck.greer@crgoarn.com>

    Web: www.crgoarn.com <http: www.crgoarn.com/=""> ,
    www.crgconsultinggroup.net <http: www.crgconsulting="">




  • 8.  RE: US Well Abandonment funded by DOI

    Posted 10-13-2022 03:17 AM
    Edited by Peter Aird 10-13-2022 03:22 AM
    P&A Is a late and last wells project. 
    Use a keep it simple project management approach to this program and each wells project. 

    Use a LCA investigative approach is highly recommended. 
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    Gather the five items. 
    Then gather all the 3 p's of program project wells evidence as one can. 
    - physical ( parts wells evidence) 
    - people evidence ( this evaporates the fastest !)
    - paperwork evidence 

    keep 3 p's of evidence separate to avoid bias. 

    Once all evidence has been gathered. 

    Identify and get all stakeholder involved.
    Facilitate a stakeholder meeting ( failsafe offer you a process how to do this) 

    Then Take all the time needed to clearly define the program individual project  ( well ‘s) work scope.

    Then Remember majority of wells project value actually come from the planning. 
    where 
    'Failing to plan will be a guaranteed recipe of planning to fail'. 

    So plan well. 
    Don't forget to address Murphy's law. 

    Particularly on old wells that may have very little  of the 3 p's of evidence needed.


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    Peter Aird
    Drilling Supv,Eng,Training, Consultant
    Kingdom Drilling
    Fife Scotland
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