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  • 1.  SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 21 days ago

    Because the U.S. tax code contains language for CO2 storage sites tax credits of $85 per metric ton, the amount of CO2 injected per year is typically discussed using some dollar value for metric tons injected per year.  These sequestration sites are typically on the order of millions of metric tons per year.  The units I have personally seen in "authoritative" documents to refer to millions of metric tons of CO2 per year are not consistent. For example, I've seen MM tonnes/yr, mmt/yr, MMT/yr, MT/yr, Mt/yr, and probably more.  I have not been able to find any official statement by SPE on the correct units for abbreviating "million metric tons per year."

    We all have opinions on this, but does SPE have any official directives, guides, or standards on preferred units to abbreviate "million metric tons per year"? 



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    Eric Robertson
    Projeo Corporation
    Sr. Reservoiring Engineer Manager
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  • 2.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 20 days ago

    Hi Eric,

    The abbreviation which is regrettably becoming more common is Mtpa, where tpa is Latinate for "ton per annum" and M is the prefix for Mega (i.e., 10^6).

    I frankly prefer Mt/y or Mt y-1 (one letter is enough where no confusion is possible).

    For those of us with an SI penchant, I have seen instances - e.g., in IPCC reports - of Tg/y, where T is the prefix for Tera (10^12) and you take advantage of the fact that 1 ton = 1 million grams. Of course, "year" is not terribly SI itself.

    Best regards,



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    Matteo Loizzo
    Well integrity consultant
    matteo.loizzo@mac.com
    Berlin, Germany
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  • 3.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 20 days ago

    Very good post.  SPE needs to step up.  Maybe API has good guidance. 



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    dana.jurick@neubrex.com, COO, Neubrex Energy Services US
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  • 4.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 20 days ago

    Good morning Eric,

    There is the SPE Style Guide which provides some guidance on units; 2019 version is more exhaustive than later revisions. It shows million cubic feet as MMcf but million eV as MeV. Overall, there is no clear definition anywhere for million. There is MM: the roman numeral thousand thousands, then mm to differentiate from M (for million). There is the imperial and SI divide. In Imperial it appears that MMt/y is one million tonnes per year. In metric it would be Mt/y = mega tonne per year. As Mateo writes, Mtpa seems to be an accepted and neat way to write the LNG train capacity.

    Tonne (1,000 kg) is fairly clear, its abbreviation is t. Short or Long Ton are generally simply ton with the adjective short or long for clarity. I suppose that we generally use ton to mean short ton, i.e. 2,000 lbs (907.18 kg).

    Regards,

    Matthias




  • 5.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 18 days ago

    The issue is by no means unique to CO2 sequestration. Take LPG for example. Reservoir engineers will work with oilfield units, barrels (bbl) for the volumes produced, but LPG traders like to work with weight in metric tonne (mt or te) and the shippers tend to work with volume in cubic metres or cubes (cbm). Of course, at the end of the day we are really selling energy, which depending on the part of the world you are in might be millions of British thermal units (mmbtu) or Joules (J). Then you can add that some regions prefer metric over oilfield units, which just creates more confusion.

    Bottom line is that you won't find a standard. There are too many industries, cultures and historical backgrounds involved. The most important thing is that you are consistent in how you use the units yourself, and that you always pay attention to them. As a wonderful reviewer once said to me, "if you're going to be wrong, at least be consistently wrong"...

    As for guidance on CO2 itself, the best analogy would be LNG. The most common usage I see in that industry is 'mtpa' for million tonnes per annum (N.B., note careful use of 'tonne'). A tonne is a 1,000 kg and has the abbreviation 't'. Million (or technically mega, but no-one says "mega tonnes per annum" when talking) is 'm' and thousand is 'k'. There is no ambiguity if you way tonne, so you don't need to precede ton with 'metric' to distinguish between a short or long ton. Double 'm' as in mmbbl for million barrels is very peculiar to the oil industry and won't travel well outside our industry. Best to avoid it in my opinion.



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    Peter Kirkham
    Project Commercialisation Manager
    Twinza Oil
    Australia
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  • 6.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 18 days ago

    Ladies and Gents,

    As Dana says, a great and timely discussion, thanks for bringing it up Eric.

    I also found it hard to believe that this has not been explicitly defined (but have not checked the new SRMS guidance, yet). 

    As several contributors have implied, this discussion may call for a work-group to take a look at all of the SPE preferred metric abbreviations:

    In this document:

    • A year, which, as Matteo has pointed out, cannot be defined in the SI system (which based on the second), is currently defined by the SPE as: a.
    • A large mass is currently defined by the SPE in terms of the appropriate metric multiple of a gram. Thus, a tonne is Mg, with t as an acceptable alternate.
    • So my read would be that the implied SPE terminology would be Mt/a or Mtpa (since we accept both B/D and BOPD & BWPD in the style guide).  

    I must say that in dealing with emissions management issues, outside of the SPE, I have found quite a bit of confusion around the proper abbreviations for Short Tons (2000 lbs; 907.2 kg) and Long Tons (2240 lbs; 1016 kg), which approximate to but do not equal the tonne (1000kg); and whether T can be used in this Imperial or US system or weights and measures. ... However, I suspect that our colleagues in the Mining Institutes have addressed this question.

    Regards

    Bob 



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    Bob Pearson
    Technical Director,
    Glynn Resources Ltd.
    Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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  • 7.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 18 days ago

    Hello everyone,

    As already mentioned within this conversation, SPE would provide good accountability in the disambiguation about the most preferable units to be used, but I guess it all goes back to the definitions of units in which we may be using in our writings, providing that we define the units conversion numbers.

    Another organization that provides reference and guidance is ISO (The International Organization for Standardization), which states that this kind of discussions sheds light on "technical standards that could be applied for the quantification and verification of greenhouse gas emissions (GHG) and reductions from CCS (carbon capture and storage) projects. ISO has also creat working groups for that porpuse (ISO/TR 27915:2017(en), Carbon dioxide capture, transportation and geological storage - Quantification and verification).

    Other efforts, also have been provided by UN forums in the frame of the KYOTO protocol (authorized) which have regulations on the Climate Change of implementations mechanisms for clean development projects to reach the environmental goals (limit the global warming temperatures between 1.5 to 2 Centigrade). 

    At the end all aims in the clear evaluation and economical benefits of documenting CCS, transportation and entitled trading's within country's and internationally. (UNCTAD/GDS/GFSB/Misc.6).

    Thanks for topic conversation and hope SPE gathers together a group to catch up in providing references.

    Jose Antonio Rodriguez Pimentel 




  • 8.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 17 days ago
    Thanks Jose,

    Intro to that ISO Document clarifies the terminology & recommended
    abbreviations for mass and millions:
    Nomenclature
    BECCS Bio-energy with CCS
    CCS Carbon Capture and Storage (or Carbon dioxide Capture, transportation
    and geological Storage)
    CDM Clean Development Mechanism
    CEMS Continuous Emission Monitoring System
    CMS Continuous Measurement System
    CO2-e Carbon dioxide equivalent
    DACCS Direct air carbon dioxide capture and (geological) storage
    EIA Environmental Impact Assessment
    EOR Enhanced Oil Recovery
    EU ETS European Union Emissions Trading Scheme
    GHG Greenhouse Gas
    IEA GHG International Energy Agency Greenhouse Gas R&D Programme
    IPCC Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
    IPCC SR IPCC Special Report on CCS (2005)
    LCA Life Cycle Assessment
    MRR Monitoring, Reporting Regulation (ref. EU)
    Mt 1 million (metric) tonnes
    Q&V Quantification and Verification
    tonne 1,000 kg
    tCO2-e tonne CO2 equivalent
    TR Technical Report
    UNFCCC United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change

    Need to dig a bit deeper for any other recommended alternatives to the
    current SPE definition for a year (a) and the term per (/a or pa).

    But, this raises another interesting question for the SPE organization:

    - Now that PetroWiki is no longer a wiki, where and how do Members add
    new acronyms and abbreviations to our lexicon

    Regards
    Bob

    R. M. Pearson PEng
    Technical Director
    Glynn Resources Ltd.
    (+1) 5878946255




  • 9.  RE: SPE's Direction on Units

    Posted 16 days ago

    This is an awesome discussion!  Thanks to all that have replied.  This has been very helpful to us at Projeo.  Of course, if there are other comments, keep them coming.



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    Eric Robertson
    Projeo Corporation
    Sr. Reservoiring Engineer Manager
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